using plank subfloor as floor

I am using my Doug Fir subfloor as my floor in my 1924 bungalow. If installing your flooring directly onto a plywood subfloor, prepare the subfloor by sanding the joists carefully and grinding the high spots. I have a subfloor under the carpet, but it is not plywood. I have a very severe allergy to mold so eliminating moisture, even at a cost increase is worth it. A long answer to your inquiry ... thanks for asking ! Ensure that the subfloor lies flat and smooth before you lay down your floor. Is the current concrete design specified as lightweight or high strength concrete? This flooring is beautiful now that it has been properly refinished, but it is indeed quite soft. Plank flooring is the most prone to this problem, the wider the plank the wider gap. Checking for flatness prior to your installation is the most important step you can take for a successful install. You need to make sure that the groove of one vinyl plank fits into the tongue of the other vinyl plank securely. thank you CP I will look up those hooks. The home was built in the 1960s and the subfloor consists of 3/4" thick tongue and groove planks running diagonal to the joists. Over concrete, subfloors can keep a room warmer and drier and more livable. When I ask why that is bad, nobody can ever answer me. My meeting with the prospective KD was one of those times where when someone I think is a purported expert (him) says something and makes me wonder "gee, he's seen a lot of kicthens, he must know what's right". I think the upper floors were never really finished well before us. Did you just cover up all the electric etc? This is an option that is typically NOT achieved easily in the U. V. finishes, mass production products. I am using my Doug Fir subfloor as my floor in my 1924 bungalow. I wish I could take all the credit for choosing them, but I had advice from a wonderful interior designer. I still have his tools. ;), Our fir is visible from the basement, so it sounds like we need to add insulation and/or tarpaper to it if it's going to become the primary floor. Given my current build there is already close to 2-3" of flooring so the proposed build should be inline with the current. Fourth; layout control joints at all inside corners in the slab, they should relate to the architecture but try to get as many as you can, see this diagram http://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/slabs/controljoints.htm Fifth; if all else fails and cracks appear that you cannot live with, you can pour a micro topping to even everything out. Thanks! The window treatments look like stained glass in that 2nd pic. I want the wide plank so will the width of plank be determined according to nailing it to floor joist. Here is how I transformed our builder-grade plywood subfloor into a faux wide-plank wood floor! Someday when (if?) 1"X8" plank subfloor nailed on the bias to the joists 1"X4" softwood boards nailed perpendicular to the joists on top of the subfloor. I still drop in here occasionally to see what's going on. See how it’s inspiring art, soothing spaces and building design, If you’ve ever been in white-paint-swatch limbo, you know white can be tricky to work with. We used some left over flooring to make a custom transition from the bedroom to the bathroom. Whew. When we pulled up our shag carpeting, we refinished our fir floors. I know that he has been by my house, and obviously he can see from the outside that the project is essentially done. Please enable Cookies and reload the page. For example, my dining room has a doorway into the kitchen, and the dining room has oak hardwood and the kitchen has ceramic tile. Don't let anyone talk you out of it. Hi artemis, what's your dining room flooring? Introducing a layer of ply will stop squeaks in your floor if it is done properly (see below). Using Luan Plywood as Flooring If you are looking at an inexpensive way to do flooring, you can use Luan Subflooring, as Finished Flooring. It's just me and the dog, he is 55lb of manic labrador, and I have put him on a strict nailtrim schedule. Caroline, sorry to steal the thread..we have heartpine subfloors for the real floor. The existing planks that make up your floor have strength that runs in one direction only, and it is now recognised that ideally, subfloors should have strength that runs in both directions. We've got the details on plywood vs OSB and enhanced options in each. Our insulation is below it laid on the beams too. Current Setup - Slab>vapor barrier>2 layers of plywood>hardwood floor In this setup - all the floor board are cupping and there are many soft spots (presumably where plywood rotted of the last 10 years) I was going to do the following to eliminate and moisture issues and Proposed setup - Slab>Seal slab (lithitek 8510)>Dricore R+>Plywood>vapor barrier where directed>hardwood or engineered hardwood. It is a 3/4" transition. Well, I had a massive deadline, had to finish the house enough to have a huge family visit in October (I turned 40 ! Not a ton of work but a good week of fussing to pull of this look., I love the look and the clients are thrilled with the streamlined look. (I assume it was originally covered with linoleum, but who knows....the rest of the house has fir topped with oak. Though the ex installed it upside down... Actually, he ran the wires through the bottom portion of the joists and tucked the batting up above them. Plywood Floor .. artemis78, the thing I wonder about is the level of flooring going from one room to the next and how that will be if you remove the ceramic tile and only use the subfloor. Protect your floors from water damage by starting with the right subfloor products. And somehow I missed the final pics of your copper...that is simply stunning. After having no kitchen for over 3years, I am now a cooking/baking fiend. Your IP: 176.114.3.206 I have old plank subfloor installed at a 45 degree angle to the floor joists. We did the same in our current house (upstairs). What's worse, the PO started to cut the bottom of the door to clear the tile and then stopped halfway through---I think when she realized that the hinge (one of those old floor hinges) wouldn't clear no matter what.....so it looks awful. Caroline. 1x1/4" sleepers, laid parallel and above the joists Cut off any excess and use a transparent tape to tape down any exposed part. Roll out underlayment over the concrete floor, give at least two inches up the wall for moisture protection, and tape down the underlayment to the subfloor smoothening with your hand to avoid any air gaps while you do so. Today, you have to pay extra for it! I'm not a fan of the bevelled edge wood stock at all. Thoughts on durability, strength, etc.? To keep the wide boards from cupping, you’ll face-nail them with cut nails driven through the subfloor and into the joists (Photo 18). You can also do it in 2x2' or 2x4'. The kitchen was essentially "finished" a couple hours before visitors arrived. But I just adore how they turned out ... see ? How should I install cbu ... have never had any problems even with large living spaces +16x 24 on the last one I did for my last house on the 2nd floor living room. It's like updated Marimekko prints (I'm a huge Danish Modern fan). I wish I had never met him, and boy was I happy to see the end of 2008. Can I use solid wood floor with a DRIcore subfloor over concrete slab? OSB performs as well as plywood, and it's just as smooth, if not smoother. The water table is high and while there is no water intrusion, there is water vapor. DIY How to Make Plywood Subfloor Look Like Wide Plank Hardwood Flooring I've known for sometime (literally years). The kitchen is so efficient and fun to work in that I find myself preferring to stay home and cook for myself and friends rather than go out. artemis: are you planning on removing the tile for the whole kitchen ? If you have an opportunity to specify your subfloor materials, it's well worthwhile to choose the best you can find. If the board subfloor is in poor condition, use plywood as a clean, flat surface to glue down 1 ⁄ 2 -in.-thick engineered flooring. I finish, I will be able to post pics, but I have found something close to it here: http://www.ifloor.com/item_422958/cork-flooring/eurocork/cork-click-system-floating-tiles/sockeye-red.html, Thanks all---your floors are gorgeous, and make me want to stick with the fir even more! thickness or more. 2x6 pine planks, laid perpendicular to the floor joists fastended with smooth-shank nails 3. Have you've tried taking up a tile and seeing if it really is the subfloor that the tile is sitting on? As long as it's in good shape, you should be fine, and it looks great! I just know that 2009 has to be better. They are WAY more gorgeous than anything you could buy today. Not that that helps a lot, since his nails grow wicked fast and when you're launching yourself at a toy, just about any nail left on his paw will scrabble at the floor and leave a mark. Really really breathtakingly nice ! Thanks!! Where did you find the fabric? There back on topic. We have a 1915 bungalow that has a fir subfloor sitting below the current ceramic tile, and---assuming it's in salvageable condition when we finally reach it---I'd really love to refinish it and use it as the kitchen floor. This is an old thread but I have a the exact same setup, except house was built in 1960 before they knew to put in a vapor barrier under the slab. However, if the existing subfloor is vinyl, do not sand it, as it could potentially contain asbestos. If you are at an office or shared network, you can ask the network administrator to run a scan across the network looking for misconfigured or infected devices. Make sure you protect the new floors. I am out about $15k, but honestly I bet he doesn't have that money to give me. We also have an 80-pound dog who likes to dance, and are trying to factor that in. He found the fabric, and when we placed the order, we unfortunately found that it had been discontinued :-( We managed to find enough in inventory to complete the job though. You will need to run that by your structural engineer of course. While preparing to lay 1100 square feet of hardwood flooring, we discovered significant variation in the OSB subfloor that will serve as the nailing surface for the hardwoods. “[They have] a color and character you can’t find in new pine,” she says. http://youtu.be/jnYiw6wBhoQ For this job we removed the drywall around the perimeter so the hardwood could be installed under and still leave room for expansion. Place the plank flooring for the first row on the floor with the tongue side of the plank aligned with the chalk line. They are great. The wood is so much nice. We did a loft here in Vancouver with new fir floors and they came out perfect. Or rather, my 1923 fir floor is the only floor ever installed in the house; there was thankfully nothing on top of it, which made refinishing much easier. This permits us to use a variety of finish types... the most popular (and durable) of which is our proprietary Aluminum Oxide Poly Finish... which is available in a wide variety of sheen levels, and has proven to be quite durable as well as "user friendly". This approach also allows application of additional coats AFTER installation, if desired, as well as re-coats in several years as a maintenance procedure. I finally actually have a home :-). We have 6" wide by 1" tall heart pine thresholds throughout most of the other downstairs doorways. We have fir floors upstairs and down in all the rooms except the bathrooms. (Almost bought one the other day that was still original wood on one side from some lucky soul whose dining room woodwork isn't all painted....but realized at the rate we're going it will be years before I strip the woodwork in there! koala...we have a step up from the kitchen to the foyer of the master bedroom. Secondly; as the concrete cures it shrinks, this causes most cracking. Even though I can see all the mistakes and flaws, in general it looks pretty good, and more importantly, I *love* working in it. The trick here is to cut the plywood sheets into tiles, about 4x4. Hey all, I've got a question about laying a new subfloor over the existing plank subfloor. You can see the fir floors in the video below. Home » International School Programs » preparing concrete subfloor for vinyl plank flooring. Another way to prevent getting this page in the future is to use Privacy Pass. I really adore these shades, they are like massive artworks. Avoid self-leveling floor patch. They were spendy (due to fabrication costs - the fabric itself was very inexpensive), but in the two months they have been up, they have made me smile and given me joy every day. When I ask why that is bad, nobody can ever answer me. In an old house, you'll almost certainly need to add a layer of plywood to the plank subfloor. Things to take into account when laying ply over plank subfloors: Now I am slowly working on projects in the rest of the house, window treatments and thinking about furniture and rugs etc. I can look it up when I get home if you want. Push the tongue-and-groove connectors together on the ends of the planks. circus peanut.May I ask where you got the great hooks for your pot rack? *sigh* A project for another day.... Hi Caroline, your flooring looks beautiful! Thanks for posting that the step up works fine in a real life situation. WOW...that is so beautiful. I am going to take up the hardwood floor to get down to the plank subfloor. Yes, batting. Flatcoat, those are GORGEOUS shades! Third; if not already specified, you can use a dense welded wire mesh (like 4x4) to try and prevent cracking. Any tips from flooring pros? Instead I bought click-lock cork plank flooring that matches the colors in the Doug Fir. It looked great in the photos. See more on this topic: Subfloor/Slab Prep & Underlayment If you notice cracks or expansion joints in your concrete subfloor, fill these in with floor patch and feather them with a trowel as before. OT: sprengle, what kind of insulation did you install? No new pictures, I guess I should take some to post a finished picture. Sure, it's vaguely unnerving in mid-remodelling to look up from the basement and see right through where there are plumbers holes, etc, but it was made that way and has lasted forever. Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property. Then I went over the entire floor, countersinking nails, removing padding staples and filling any large gaps or unwanted holes with wood filler. They can be colored or natural. For a MONTH.) Engineered and Laminate Flooring - Finishing subfloor, or... - Hey, I have a few questions I'd really appreciate some opinions on. We refinished them in several rooms and they looked great. My house even has fir floors in the bathroom, and it's holding up splendidly for an octogenarian floor. so I had several siblings and my mum come to visit from Australia. Since I am stuck in remodel hell, they have yet to be installed. It should be installed with the smooth side up, and the joints should be staggered for moisture control and stability. They're the only ones that can't fall off no matter how you twist your pots.I posted a bunch of photos of my worn-in counters at the end of the DIY copper countertop thread. Your feet get used to it right away. In some places you coudl see light shining through but they were plenty sturdy for our son and two big dogs. ), Caroline - The potrack hooks are 5" Bar Hooks by Rogar, in copper (of course). glad you like it koala...I just wanted to be sure and show you that a) it can be done easily b) it looks great c) it is safe for ambulation. Other than that, I think refinishing a fir floor would be the bomb! The plank subfloor has some gaps in it, maybe 1/8-1/4" or so. Not everyone's cup of tea, I know, but life would be boring if everyone were the same, right ? That is still the flooring in the rest of the house and the only problem is it is soft and old and splinters easily even though it was refinished. I wasn't able to identify what type of wood it is, but I understand a lot of these plank subfloors from that time are softwoods like pine. Then we installed new L Beads so that no baseboards would be needed. And your kitchen....wow...simply gorgeous and so warm and inviting. Pictures of the floor here. I’m thinking I might try using stain instead of paint, but I’ll certainly do a trial plank first Im thinking that it might last longer with the stain sinking into the wood, seeing it will be a high traffic area. This new floors ran East West and the unit has windows only on these elevations. According to this handy video on how to install vinyl plank flooring, the subfloor should be “level within 3/16-inch change per 10 feet.” To level the existing floor, you may need to use a floor scraper or even a belt sander on high spots. More than likely you will get cracks in a slab that thin but there are some things you can do to try and reduce the occurrence. 2x10 floor framing (old-growth pine, no blocking/bridging) 2. Work with the builder to get a low water ratio in the concrete mix, it's a little harder to work with but will result in less shrinkage. Not trying to armchair a solution, just trying to take a comprehensive approach to this. Here’s how to get the fresh look you’re after, Do you love perfection or patina? It's very common in our town as most of the houses are from that era, too. Only about a quarter of the house (the addition built in the '50s) has subfloor underneath, the rest (built in 1900) doesn't, and looks like it never did. flatcoat! If the subflooring is in good shape, nail it down without the plywood, assuming the engineered wood is of good quality and 1 ⁄ 2 -in. Another told me to just paint this subfloor with the oil based sealer recommended and lay the click floor. The house I grew up in was built in the 1920s and had fir subfloors. attached to using a subfloor as a primary floor. If you've already got about an inch upstep up to the kitchen's tile floor, then by removing the tile and using the flooring that's under the tile, I think you'd solve that existing issue. The manufacturer told me the luxury vinyl plank I was looking at was too thin (3 mm) to mount directly onto the 1-Step product, they require an 8 mm minimum floor or a plywood subfloor ontop of the subfloor. Cloudflare Ray ID: 600952c15fc9f2bc I'm mostly concerned about actual weakness, structural issues, etc. Most, if not all of the mass produced flooring is produced with a U. V. (ultra violet) cured finish in an aluminum oxide finish (or similar). Jailbird Contractor got out of jail in November, we have had a couple exchanges by email but he refuses to tell me where he is. It was just horrible before that! Use carpenter shims or spacers to make a 3/8” expansion gap between the walls and the vinyl flooring. If you are using a concrete subfloor, the flooring should be at least six weeks old, dry, and free of powder or cracks. Coupled with adequate joist support, a subfloor provides the structure that assures your floor will be solid, level and properly supported. This is not the case as the subfloor is on floor joists and not concrete, and the entry door has an 8′ porch over it so it takes a severe wind to drive rain or snow to the door. Thanks Katie The 3/4-in.-thick solid plank flooring shown is milled with a tongue and groove. More recently my DH and I lived in a house with wide pine planks for flooring that were structural as well. The planks are typically 1x6 and made of pine, fir, or a similar softwood. The subfloor is particle board. I know fir is a soft wood and that things like claws will scratch the finish, so we plan to have mats down at the door and in the sink/cooking area (as we do now), and are used to not loving our finishes too much since we have oak through the rest of the house. Concrete over a plywood subfloor with 16" on center floor joists. Here's mine, still going strong after 85 years: Yep, I have doug fir through the entire house. I often get comments (usually from guys)--"But it's the subfloor!" This way it doesn't look like you just cheapened out and painted the subfloor. But in our case, we're coming from the other end of the spectrum---with the ceramic tile, we have about an inch upstep from the dining room into the kitchen, which in our old bungalow has the terrible side effect of meaning that the original swinging door doesn't swing anymore (only opens into the dining room). The bevel was slight and since natural sunlight washes in the room in the same direction of the floors the bevels do not highlight any dust like they would if the floors ran North South. 2 Dec. preparing concrete subfloor for vinyl plank flooring. It looks like a great project, hopefully these tips help. A number of our neighbors have done this, and it's a beautiful look. You may need to download version 2.0 now from the Chrome Web Store. I love them! Next, as to wood in the bath, it really doesn’t belong there. Best of luck, Make a utilitarian mudroom snazzier and better organized with these cheap and easy ideas, Take your kitchen up a notch even if it will never reach top-of-the-line, with these cheap and easy decorating ideas, Make fluffing and folding more enjoyable by borrowing these ideas from beautifully designed laundry rooms, One-of-a-kind lumber warms a room and adds age and interest, See why an engineered wood floor could be your best choice (and no one will know but you), Inventive options and durability make tile a good choice for floors. A level subfloor is a prerequisite or any floor covering, but it isn't as important for vinyl planks as it is for more rigid materials, such as laminates or tiles. The existing floor construction is as follows: 1. Subfloor Leveling. Yes, we'd definitely remove the tile from the entire kitchen and also from the breakfast room, which connects. We, however, have retired our U. V. system in exchange for a system which allows us to vary finishes in a infra red/heat curing system. Once that existing wood flooring is ready to act as a subfloor, you will need to install your new floor at a 45-degree angle or perpendicular to the existing flooring. Will I be able to nail into the particle board or will I nail into the floor joist. That I would rip up my ugly paint stained Den carpet, and attempt to recreate the plywood sub floor into something special. ;) The door not clearing is a secondary issue, though---annoying but we could happily live with it if we didn't have other issues with the existing floor. I can't remember where I got 'em - some rinky tink online emporium, I think. There should be a layer of tarpaper laid underneath your fir that at least catches the dust. Here is a pic. To add unique beauty: “It adds a lot of character,” says Paprocki, who has exposed and refinished wood subfloors in several projects, including her own home. I have to do something soon, what with our current cold wave making for pretty cold toes. I thought I saw somewhere here, and I did, about gluing/not gluing, and nailing/not nailing into the joists.Unfortunately, that thread derailed and turned into a pissing contest. Wood Plank Subflooring Wood planks were the traditional subflooring material used in homes built up to the mid-twentieth century. It looks like crap if not maintained and can really highlight imperfections in a floors levelness. (and I have the scars to prove it, but that's a whole other story). I was just thinking about you. The plank subfloor looks to be about ¾" thick tongue and groove and appears as though it was stained and finished at some point in time. Since then, planks have been almost entirely replaced by plywood and other sheet subflooring. Concrete work is a bit of an art form, what works in one pour may not work in another but that "personality" is what make concrete such an interesting finish material. When a prospective kitchen designer was at my house, I was asking him about whether we could just take up the tiles and refinish the subfloor and use it as the kitchen floor, and he said that there would be a height differential between my DR and kitchen. I love a lot of Marimekko also :-), I just bought some Marimekko print bedlinens. It's a reason I love reading the threads here--they are from real people who speak from actually living in their spaces day to day. They got lots of scratches though. May 23, 2020 - This article is part of our series on How to Install Hardwood Floors. Three main issues - One the slab is extremely cold and transfers that chill into the house. First, I removed the carpet and padding. I'm not familiar with anything considered a "commercial grade" finish on a hardwood floor. Does anyone have a sub-floor that they're using in the kitchen? flatcoat: how did I miss your house ??? I would make absolutely sure that every single board is firmly nailed down before refinishing. I am planning on installing tile in my utility room and there is a plank subfloor under the existing wood floor. – Ed Beal Aug 14 '17 at 0:56. The good news is that the scratches are not super noticeable, except for obsessives like me. We had that in our house, but tore it out of the first floor a few years ago and replaced with oak and subfloor. Essentially, cut out a section of the plank floor, build a box 3/4 below the joists, that would then support 3/4 plywood, thus making the joists and plywood subfloor level with each other. JW. Fir is a softer hardwood and more easily scratched. I can't beleive the moxie on this guy. You can google for a number of sources. :). For a concrete subfloor, ensure it … We did batting insulation too. Num nums that put it in did it upside down too...we made them come back. Jailbird contractor neglected to do that, and there are a couple of definite soft spots in the kitchen. Myself, I am tempted to take up my attic flooring and replace my kitchen tiles with it, just to get that old wood look. I often get comments (usually from guys)--"But it's the subfloor!" There is a threshold in that doorway. :). They are WAY more gorgeous than anything you could buy today.Downside is they are cold because there is no insulation, but I do plan on having that spray-foam insulation put in when the price goes down, or possibly the styrofoam insulation 4 x 8's they sell at Home Depot.I do NOT plan on having them in my kitchen, however, because I discovered after I refinished them that they get very slippery when wet! I do not know if it was poorly constructed or if this naturally happened over time, but the tongues and grooves of the planks across much of the floor … Koala, our dining room is quarter-sawn white oak with a mahogany greek key inlay---so while we want the kitchen floor to complement, we probably don't want to match it as far as style/cost goes. If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware. Was it batting? As an alternative to plywood for a laminate subfloor, OSB board is less expensive and more ecological. Single Board is firmly nailed down before refinishing tile for the first row on beams... In our current cold wave making for pretty cold toes if the existing wood floor with the smooth up. You temporary access to the foyer of the other vinyl plank flooring for first... I still drop in here occasionally to see what 's your dining flooring! 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